I rapidly recovered and then was ready for my rotation. Tip had set up a fluid busy schedule that involved
outpatient clinics, emergency room, primary care unit, Chinese medicine clinic,
Thai massage clinic, and added additional ward medicine and other experiences.
My experiences will be a mix since of little observations,
experiences, with variable timing since I have been so busy that I have not had
dedicated writing time.
A bit about the hospital structure of staffing. When I am saying Intern doctor, it means
something different here in Thailand.
After the 6 years of medical school training there is a big national
lottery for government hospital training sites.
Everyone pics some sort of ping pong ball with a number on it. Then you get to choose in order of what you
want. Sounds horribly stressful! If you pick a high number you could be stuck
down way south far away from family.
They tell me it is a 3 year commitment and you are referred to as an
intern or general practitioner the whole time, so intern year 1 or 2 or 3. The hospital has I believe 8 interns, and a
handful of doctors, including ophthalmologist, a few pediatricians, one
medicine doctor, an obstetrician and a surgeon will be coming. So much of the inpatient and outpatient
activities are run by the interns! Talk
about a lot of work! They tell me they
do not get formal vacation time either.
The incentive to go through the GP training is that at the end their
300,000 baht loans are dissolved. For
USD that is about 10,000$. Amazing… Here we have average debts in the 200,000 USD
range. But, in order to continue with
specialization like medicine, surgery, radiology, you are required to complete
a GP training. This system pushes all
their young doctors to get at least basic functioning at taking care of medical
issues. Technically GPs are also
training in basic surgery, including to perform appendectomy's. It is amazing how hard they are pushed. The most amazing thing is that because of the
intern heavy work load, staff supervision comes in self-initiated ways. The second and third year interns are running
their own show. They have access to a couple specialists on site and at the larger hospital about 12km away via phone. But otherwise, it’s just them. It is kind of sad, because having the intern
and resident dynamic in medicine and other fields I feel is a wonderful way to
train. This is a very independent
learning structure for sure!
My first few days were just getting oriented and Dr. Tip
took me to visit the administration. I
met the head of the entire hospital, and various directors. Everyone was wearing festive Hawaiian style
shirts for Songkran. Everyone seemed
interested in meeting this random farang doctor from California. Luckily I had already learned the different
ways to say hello. When you put your
hands together as if praying, it is part of hello and thank you. But you vary the intensity whether you are
directing toward an elder or a monk. So
by the sternum for most, then to chin and then forehead for monk.
I made my way to the emergency room where I first met Dr.
Kim. Bear in mind, everyone has much
longer names than Kim and Tan, but at birth Thai’s are given the long name plus
a nick name. So the whole country has
all these cute names! Yada, Noot, Nooh,
Tom… more later on the intense cuteness of this culture =D. Hello kitty… that is just the beginning, =D.
Sorry, more later. In the ER was a very
relaxed group of nurses and varying degrees of drunk revelers from songkran
=D. Some amazing observations. The nurses are training in suturing! I was watching the nurse confidently sew up a
young guys foot, amazing skill. When it
is one intern running the whole ER it is truly necessary. I feel like I would be nervous as all heck
running an ER on my own, but Dr. Kim just remained jovial and showed no obvious
signs of stress. I have a feeling they
achieve and require a much higher level of confidence from this style of
training. Sink or swim out here I am
guessing. Sitting around the main desk
were some young appearing Thai girls in what appeared to be street
clothes. I felt a little spray of water
hit my arm, I turn around and the nurses are having a full on hello kitty water
gun fight in the ER =D. Whaa, so crazy. This is not the last.. haha. No one seemed to bat an eye at the activities. Soon it made it outside, I guess they were ER
nurses but with songkran uniforms protocol is quite lenient.
I was so busy noting all the differences that I forgot many
of the medical cases, but as they say here, no problem (or pompem… =D). One of the patients was a 10 year old
little monk. His father brought him in
for a URI. He was wearing his orange
robes and head shaven. You don’t see
that in Los Angeles! Oh yeah, that
morning there was actually a mass casualty called. A double decker bus of songkran Thai revelers
overturned on the highway nearby killing a handful and injuring many more. The hospital activated their mass casualty
triage protocol, but everything was calm by the time I arrived. Apparently there are many double decker bus
accidents in Thailand and the government was beginning the process of testing
them for stability. They are
ridiculously tall compared to their width, so it is no surprising that they
would topple over if a turn was taken too fast. Car accidents during Songkran are a well-known issue. You couple national holiday, copious drinking
and partying, and driving/motorcycle riding (without helmets!!) and you have an
issue. Here are the final statistics
found online Songkran 2014: 322 deaths, 3,225 injuries and 2,992 accidents craziness. Taking care of these issues at Tha Muang can
be an issue since, the hospital does not have ICU level care so many patients
that require intubation or higher level care are rapidly shipped out to the
larger kanchanaburi hospital. It is very
interesting to be at a hospital without the higher level care, since I am so
used to being in tertiary and quaternary care medical facilities. This is a true community hospital, doing the
best they can to help their community with the financial limitations of governmental
run health care.
The EMR (electronic medical record) situation is
interesting. They have a government
medical records that is used with a paper version. The company is Hosxp, it was created within their country by a pharmacist I believe, then picked up by the government. It looks pretty slick with encounters,
documentation, laboratory, outpatient RX abilities with refill. The interns tell me it is province specific
so you cannot see patients across all of Thailand. They have PACS and can view
images on their computers which is great.
The patients keep their own little notebook that keeps track of vitals,
visits and pertinent info to their planned OPD (outpatient department visits). This was similar to rural Africa, where
patients kept these little books which was essentially their entire medical
record! The nurses fill out the patients
little books. But in addition to the
electronic chart there is a paper mini chart that is about 4inchx8inch folder
with pertinent diagnosis, medications (printed in pharmacy I believe), labs,
d/c summaries (pretty brief though… few sentences). So all of this is used. When patient is admitted they use a paper
standard admit sheet that is a H and P note, and then a page with free hand
writing orders for sending them upstairs.
Daily progress notes are in the form of a SOAP, and a few
words/sentences suffice per patient.
Nurses can also document in the chart when labs or other important info
comes up. The daily vitals, I/O, medications
are charted in what looks like an old ICU paper chart or anesthesia sheet. It all seems to work for them. Reminds me a bit of cview (our old UCLA EMR) with multiple
systems, but there is no way Epic will be coming to Thailand anytime soon. I think it would be 100s of billions of
dollars to convert an entire country into Epic =D, it’s almost funny and
painful to think about such a transition.
Either way, medicine is medicine, you still see the patient, write a
note, order something, talk with patient, monitor patient, discharge, refill
prescription… it’s amazing how western medicine has more similarities than
differences from country to country.
One side note, I noticed on the charts the years were not
2014 but like 2555. Turns out they use a
Buddhist calendar! So confusing. They even have little charts to help convert
the years!
One of the patients had cough so we reviewed the X-ray
together, me and intern Dr. Kim. Looked
clear to me. I asked, “so how long for
the final radiology read.” He laughed,
“radiologist? I am the final read.” They
have access to radiology review but only by calling a larger hospital if there
is an issue. They also need to call for
all MRI and CT scans since it involves a transfer and return. Seeing this reminds me of how absolutely ridiculous
we are with ordering radiologic studies!
It is truly madness. We should at
least exercise some amount of restraint with this, and just document why we did
or did not order a test. I think the ER
staff might need a visit to a rural governmental hospital as well… IM and ER both...
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